Today in class students presented their ideas and arguments about hip hop culture: what it is, was or hopes to continue to be. The views shared ranged from: hip hop is dead to the honored and anointed position those who claim to be a part of the fraternity possess.
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Group#1: 2flyKrew
Dominique W.
Hekun (Quin) S.
Deon J.
English 1B: (Tuesday/Thursday)
August 21, 2008
Hip hop music, alternatively referred to as hip–hop music or rap music, is a music genre typically consisting of a rhythmic style of speaking called rap over backing beats. Hip hop music is part of hip hop culture, which began in the Bronx, in New York City in the 1970s, predominantly among African Americans and Latinos (two other elements are b-boying (also known as breakdancing and graffiti). The term rap is sometimes used synonymously with hip hop music, though it originally referred only to rapping itself.
Hip hop arose in New York City when DJs began isolating the percussion break from funk or disco songs for audiences to dance to. The role of the MC was originally to introduce the DJ and the music, and to keep the audience excited. The MC would speak between songs, giving exhortations to dance, greetings to audience members, jokes and anecdotes. Eventually, this practice became more stylized, and came to be known as rapping. By 1979, hip hop had become a commercially recorded music genre, and began to enter the American mainstream. It also began its spread across the world. In the 1990s, a form called gangsta rap became a major part of American music, causing significant controversy over lyrics which were perceived by some as promoting violence, promiscuity, drug use and misogyny. Nevertheless, by the beginning of the 2000s, hip hop became a staple of popular music charts and is now performed in widely varying styles around the world.
Also is a list we noted about Hip-Hop:
•Music
•Life
•Culture
•Movement
•Feeling
•Person (Can’t be taught or brought, it just is, you born with it)
•Stances
•Art
•Political
•HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD!!
Group #2(?)
Name: (undecided)
Group members:
-Jennifer
-Gretel
-Eder
(i forgot to ask for last names, so sorry if it is inconvenient for anyone)
ENGLISH 1B
-meetings on Tuesday/Thursday from 1:30 to 3:00
-August 25, 2008
Considering that our group is pretty "raw" towards hip hop-Eder and I facing it with a literal sense which is staying above the surface with listening to the beats but not getting into the deeper contexts, and Gretel having little interest in the genre-not much could be contributed from the group. What was originally recorded on paper during the class session was:
Hip Hop Culture being about...
-the beat/soul
-lyrics containing "deep" subjects
-a method to portray a message out to the people
-another form of "poetry"
-a way of connecting certain words that create a stronger feeling...
In regards to what people has been saying about how "hip hop is dead," it is understandable on why there are different points of views to the subject. For most, Hip hop is supposed to be something deep, something strong and filled with thoughts and ideas. Hip Hop is a way for an artist to express him/her self; to bring out reality in which cases people are being ignorant to. That was the idealistic point of hip hop for most until the music industry evolved into something no longer about the music but how much money an album with certain songs and lyrics can make. Hip Hop songs are being filled with a basis of none other than sex, sweets, violence, money etc. This is why Hip Hop can be consider as "dead" for many. Hip Hop is no longer what it originated to be. It has become a tool for the music industry to use as a way to bring in the big bucks. However, there are still artists out there, that can be said to put bring some justice back to hip hop. (Although we don't have the knowledge yet of who these artists might be...we will soon tho!) Making hip hop into a controversial subject.
Group #6 (?)
Loren D.
Ronald (Ronnie) T.
And another guy, but I forgot his name.
Although we don't know very much about Hip-hop, we thought that all forms of this type of music consist of: ways of communication, forms of expression (with especially meaningful words and/or beats), is normally geared towards young adults.
Benjamin H.
English 1B: (Tuesday/ Thursday)
August 25, 2008
Group #3
To me Hip Hop is a type of music that has a bad side and a good side to it. The bad contains sex, violence, drugs and alcohol, money and power and all these are being expressed by some artists in Hip Hop, and I hate to say it but it does have a negative influence on youth in this country. The other side of Hip Hop is that it can also be good because there are some artists in Hip Hop that express themselves in a more clean and positive way through their songs. I didn’t grow up listening to Hip Hop and this is probably why I don’t have that strong connection to it that some classmates have with this music, but I do listen to Hip Hop now and it’s clear to me that Hip Hop is not just another form of music it is very unique in style and in sound. I also believe that Hip Hop is more complex than people think and with this brings to it more critics and more followers than other forms of music out there.
Kimberly Peterson
English 1B
What is hip-hop? Well lets see, it is a type of music that has rythem and a beat that you can dance to. It is used as a form of expression. This is done by individuals or a group of people coming together to express themselves.
What is the hip-hop culture? It is a group of people. A lot of people that come from the Hip-hop culture also come from ares in the world where there is not many outlets or ways to express themselves, so they use music. Some artists to mention are: Beastie boys, Mos Def, Kanye West, and Lupe Fiasco.
Group name: "The HipHoppers" or "Kieropraktics"
names:
-Faraj Fayad
-Megan Cieri
-Rashad Aiyewunmi
-Haseeb Naweed
Question:
-How do we portray hiphop?
Haseeb believes,
Underground HipHop is more of a message in each song and is based on what one says and Rap HipHop is more of how the song sounds rather than what the artist is saying.
Megan's arguement,
HipHop has its own way of life, ( it is it's own culture, "drug culture.")
morphing over time....
Rasheed says,
HipHop is an urban genre and is still developing. it is a never stopping process as it gets more and more political.
Faraj believes,
personaly,
HipHop is the life of the emcee whom felt the struggle of living poor and hustled to make a living in their community. But HipHop isn't about how many cars or how much money one makes. HipHop is the concious talk and metaphores put into a song filled with rhythum, that only the gifted could understand and keep up with.
Talib Kwalie Says "HipHop is not a nation, take it to population...
HipHop is the four elemnts DJing, EmCeeing, Graffiting, and B-boy break dancing
"HipHop is beautiful, HipHop is life" quoted in Zion I's album, "True&Livin'" .
What is hip hop?
It's music right?
More so, it's a lifestyle, a music with a whole lot of background.
When we spoke and shared our thoughts on this subject in groups we came up with a few different ideas. Hip hop is a form of expression with originality and meaning behind its lyrics.
So what is hip hop culture? Well, our group said first off it is a group that comes together to express themselves through music. These "cultures" tend to blossom from areas that often lack a way to express themselves. Hip hop creates an outlet for this so called expression to take place. It is passed on from generation to generation creating its own subculture and style.
GROUP: no name (Aerin, Kimmy.....etc?)
Wendy Estrada
Hip Hop fo me represents the feelings and emotions that the person is feeling.Yes hip hop contains violence, drugs, alcohol, sex,but the reality is that that's what people go through in real life. Hip hop is a movement that makes the youth feel like they are not alone or infact that they are not the only ones going true hard moments.Hip hop started a while back and with it came along, new dancing, art, and clothing styles. these new styles represented the youth and untill today is a very powerful sence of style and culture.
Hip Hop is an art form that includes deejaying [cuttin' & scartchin'] emceeing/rappin'. breakdancing and grafitti art. These art forms as we know them today originated in the South Bronx section of New York City around the mid 1970s. Hip Hop has thrived within the subculture of Black and Puerto Rican communities in New York and is now just recently beginning to enjoy widespread exposure. From a sociological perspective, Hip Hop has been one of the main contributing factors that helped curtail gang violence due to the fact that many adults found it preferrable to channel their anger and aggressions into these art forms which eventually became the ultimate expression of one's self
Aerin O'Leary
English 1B
Today we discussed hip hop and it's overall meaning, definition and connotation. I felt that hip hop was a form of expression and that underground hip hop is what should be studied, listened to as apposed to the main stream commercial hip hop most of us know today.
The culture deals with style, individuality and more so the love for music. It often entails a group of people coming together to express themselves through music and often the sub culture blossoms from areas that lack a way to express themselves. It is usually passed on from generation to generation.
John Rawson
I think that the idea of hip hop has died out. I believe that originally hip hop was beyond anything else a way of expression. A way for the masses who had no voice to become vocalized.
Hip hop was a product formed by dope beats and awesome rhymes. The rhymes were used to speak out against social injustices and used to its listeners. Hip hop was a way of expression to those who had something to say to people begging to hear it. Now more often, hip hop has changed into something else, completely.
Hip hop today is a way to push commercial products to a consumer nation. It is a vessel for capitalist America, exploiting the very same people it claimed to speak for and represent. Hip hop today is a sad excuse for what it was and its idea has died out.
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